[parentheses]

30 years of expected support is pretty unreasonable. Stating a requirement like this makes the discussion about competing dogmas. Rather, it's about the right way to keep devices operational as long as possible while also allowing companies to remain possible.

30 years of support expectations immediately makes the cost of any device go up to hedge against the risk of fines during the entire 30 years. It also makes it harder to disrupt an industry with hardware at its core.

I don't have a single computing device that has lasted longer than 10 years. Reasonably speaking, either performance or features start to make the device largely obsolete and unusable.

I think a better way to propose this would be the expectation that when a product is EOL, it should be supportable by the buyer for a certain period. This requires figuring out the right period of support. I'd propose something that scales period based on cost or device class. A $1200 phone should be usable for 10 years while a $10 disposable glucose sensor with a battery should not.

[prognu]

Sorry, but some people will run routers (and other IoT devices) for > 10 years, and long past some random 2 year EOL a manufacturer may set. We need less e-waste, and if manufacturers have to warrant security for 30 years, they may also invest enough to make the hardware itself last longer. More expensive is totally fine if the product is useful for longer! Oh, and please double-check if you really have no 1st generation Raspberry PI anywhere, or maybe some ancient Arduino? What about your washer? Modern washers are IoT devices. My (admittedly not yet IoT washer) is > 10 years old. Or take your car. Sure, you may buy a new one every 10 years, but there are plenty of cars > 10 years on the road. Do you want all of them to be vulnerable and out of warranty in the future?

[Animats]

> 30 years of expected support is pretty unreasonable.

I happen to know, having been with a Ford unit at the time, that the Ford EEC-IV engine control unit in 1980s Ford cars and trucks was designed for a 30 year lifetime. Many are still working.

The average age of light vehicles in the US is 12.2 years.

This is more in NHTSA's wheelhouse, though.

[justin66]

> I don't have a single computing device that has lasted longer than 10 years. Reasonably speaking, either performance or features start to make the device largely obsolete and unusable.

Are you just buying cheap junk? An i7-3770 PC - a good example of an 11 year old PC, and one I happen to use every day - can be quite usable today.