[thejackgoode]

>the richer you are, the fewer children you have

Not entirely true, there is a reverse-parabolic correlation [1] After certain income level, number of children per family increases.

Middle class is shooting itself in the foot economically by having children, that's why there's such correlation.

1. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Number-of-children-top-h...

[FirmwareBurner]

>Middle class is shooting itself in the foot economically by having children, that's why there's such correlation.

Middle class are the worst off for having kids, at least here in Europe.

  • The upper class can afford as many kids as they want, no problem.

  • The lower class gets tax breaks and subsidies from the state according to how many kids they have and how low their income is, the more money they get from the state, so they also have a lot of kids because every extra kid means a net monetary benefit.

  • The middle class gets the shaft as they bear the brunt of highest income tax brackets to fund the state coffers, and also get the lowest amounts of child subsidies because their income is considered good enough, so they're the ones having the least amount of kids.

[hackeraccount]

That's sort of fascinating. I mean is that an absolute or relative thing? If we were all as rich as Bill Gates would we all have more children? Or if we were all as rich as Bill Gates - but Gates in turn was wealthier still - would the number of children we and he had remain the same?

[thejackgoode]

Interesting question, I'd say both. The harder it is to stay in the middle class (by arbitrary standard of living) or "ascend" by incorporating in Ireland, the more hesitant people are regarding children. F.e. if middle class population % is big (like in Czechia or Sweden), there is higher fertility.

[bryanlarsen]

In my personal experience the rich have a fairly bimodal distribution. My middle class friends have 1 or 2 kids. Most of my rich friends have 0 or 4+. The big families skew the average.