[grive]

This website is a pathetic example of cherry-picked and misrepresented data.

No surprise coming from climate change deniers.

Hacker News always had a pretty high number of such people (and an even higher number of climate change sceptics) amongst its users. I think it's due to a prevalent ideological proximity with the American right, which has been (and still is) the main driver for this propaganda.

[nojvek]

There’s a difference between totally denying climate change and being skeptic of the accuracy of data.

1C per decade and 4C per decade are different. They’re both warming.

I’m skeptic of how hyperbolic we lay out global warming to be - Extinction in a few decades.

But a believer that it will be painful for a large amount of population on the planet. Very painful.

[grive]

Sure, it's definitely not the same. I would not think of someone not believing the most extreme predictions to be a skeptic.

What I call climate change skeptics are people playing into the well-known playbook of industries being attacked by research into the harm to inflict on society: tobacco, "forever chemicals", etc, and today also climate change.

The science behind climate change is generally sound, even if we have unknowns and things yet to research, we know two important things: climate is changing, and human activities are causing it.

Some people however are ideologically biased against questioning the status quo. The industry put into question is at the core of our models, it's impacting every facet of modern life in developed countries.

Some political parties are counting on this, so you have had propaganda for 20 years in the US ridiculing environmental efforts, highlighting the most unhinged voices to disparage the effort as a whole, and people generally well educated that should know better, are following suite. The website posted by the OP of this thread is a literal example of such rhetoric.

I see this on Hacker News at least, so many people seemingly too afraid of words like 'degrowth' not to conjure scary strawmans (going back to the dark ages), instead of asking the tough questions of how we are going to get through this.

I just find ridiculous how so many people are too happy to lean into their bias, I find it cowardly and unreasonable.

[fwungy]

Elon Musk owns the biggest EV company. If that doesn't make you suspicious I don't know what will.