[KronisLV]

I also have the subscription with all of their products, it actually gets cheaper in the 2nd and 3rd year: https://www.jetbrains.com/store/#personal

I hate the fact that I'm paying for development tools (feels wrong somehow), but love the tools themselves: the search, autocomplete, suggestions, refactoring, framework integrations and run profiles, alongside other things are all great.

Plus, they support most of the languages I want to use, even database stuff, except I still think that EER in MySQL Workbench were done better than anything similar in DataGrip or even what pgAdmin has, though that's a niche workflow.

Pretty much everything aside from memory usage and performance during projects being indexed is good, those are unpleasant. Oh and maybe the fact that their Fleet editor (a bit like VSC) feels a bit early in development sometimes, but that's besides the point.

Their products are probably worth a look if you like IDEs and GUI, though you won't see much use if you prefer mostly text editors (even with plugins).

[jarym]

> I hate the fact that I'm paying for development tools

What feels wrong about it? Most professions that require tools don’t have a problem with it (construction for instance)

[dtnewman]

And it’s crazy how cheap our tools are! My plumber has a $10,000 camera. Meanwhile, for less than $2000, I have the same laptop that I would own if I were a billionaire (shameless plug for Framework). And that’s my most expensive piece of productivity equipment, by far (especially when annualized… sure I can spend $5k on a desk but I won’t need a new one every few years and it would very clearly be a luxury, not a productivity boost over a $1000 desk).

I am personally happy to pay for productivity enhancing software. If you make software that helps me and charge a reasonable price (and Jetbrains prices are quite reasonable), I want you to get rich and make an immediate profit so that you are incentivized to keep making and maintaining great software and don’t feel compelled to sell.

[KronisLV]

> What feels wrong about it?

I guess the best way I can articulate it, is that suddenly I have this additional dependency that needs monetary investment.

If the price or my financial situation changes in the future, it might get harder to justify that investment. All of the sudden, I might not be able to share single click project run profiles or information about workflows with anyone who hasn't made that investment like I have (and are using something else).

For some software, the company going under might also mean the package disappearing, as opposed to the community (at least sometimes) taking over. In some cases, there might also be changes that are done behind closed doors, that I don't really have much of a voice in making or even changing on my own accord.

The closest analogy I can come up with is opting for Windows Server as opposed to Debian, the latter of which is free, open and abundant to the point of being available pretty much anywhere and will most likely remain so for a long time. Not that there's anything wrong with Windows Server, but with Debian there are few concerns when opting for it.

That said, as far as IDEs go, JetBrains have done a good job and pretty much everything right (if I'm not mistaken, even if you stop your subscription, you can still use the version you have, just not the latest releases). Coming from a Java background, their offerings are also better than NetBeans and Eclipse, at least in my eyes. And having Rider be available on many platforms is also great, since I'm not exactly going to be running Visual Studio on Linux, yet like a consistent experience across OSes (MonoDevelop was a little bit niche).

Overall, I feel like me giving them money is a good choice, but still can't shake that gut feeling about commercial software. Then again, I also pay for GitKraken, for similar reasons and that also feels fully justified. I might also pay for MobaXTerm in the near future, because if you're ever on Windows, that thing feels like it manages SSH connections and does other stuff (SFTP, VNC/RDP) better than many of the solutions on Linux distros currently do (e.g. Remmina).

[bigbillheck]

> (feels wrong somehow)

If we expect others to pay for the stuff we write, we should expect to sometimes pay for the stuff others write.

[aleph_minus_one]

> If we expect others to pay for the stuff we write, we should expect to sometimes pay for the stuff others write.

I guess the ratio of people who develop freely available open source software in their spare time is quite high among the Hacker News audience. :-)

[bigbillheck]

> in their spare time

And so presumably is the proportion of people here who have day jobs reliant on people buying their work.