[mkoubaa]

True, but at the same time, if your grandma's identity was stolen you'd be more likely to be willing to discard some freedom for the sake of security.

There's a general willingness to trade incremental freedom for security in many arenas but ascending that gradient is a hard sell

[unstuck3958]

False dichotomy. Security does not have to come at the price of freedom.

[brightlancer]

What security can be obtained without sacrificing _any_ freedom?