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by KirillPanov 1024 days ago
I don't think it's a values problem. The technical issues here are complex. Can you explain bootloader locking or remote attestation to your grandmother?

Personally I think a better approach is to push the phrase "right to recycle and repurpose" as much as possible. People get that. Everybody personally has seen the unsettling amount of e-waste that passes through their ownership and into a landfill somewhere.

Right to repair isn't enough, because these restrictions don't block you from keeping things working the way they did when you bought the device. Recycling and repurposing is something everybody can understand. It answers the question of "wait don't only evil hackers care about that?"
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nvm0n2 1024 days ago
How does it follow though. Bootloader locking and remote attestation don't stop you recycling devices or even repurposing them. They stop you changing the OS stack to an unknown one and then using them for the exact same purposes as before. That's much harder to explain and it boils down to in most cases, people still in love with the idea that one day a hacker/grassroots OS may become popular. Which is fun for developers to imagine but has no relevance to any end users.
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flangola7 1024 days ago
>Bootloader locking and remote attestation don't stop you recycling devices or even repurposing them.

Not even close to true.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/43jywd/why-tens-of-thousands...

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nvm0n2 1024 days ago
Anti-theft features aren't anything to do with remote attestation, and this feature does not stop recycling the devices, it just means that only Apple can recycle them. Which would likely be true anyway due to how integrated the components are.
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flangola7 1022 days ago
> Anti-theft features aren't anything to do with remote attestation, and this feature does not stop recycling the devices Activation Lock relies on a remote attestation mechanism. It will not unlock without a connection to Apple's servers and can't be bypassed on the device.

>it just means that only Apple can recycle them. Which would be a problem

>Which would likely be true anyway due to how integrated the components are. You don't need Apple to melt down gold

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