[ambrozk]

> And AI is a computer. So the naive expectation would be that it would be capable of doing as well as a computer.

Why would you judge an AI against the expectations of a naive person who doesn't understand capabilities AIs are likely to have? If an alien came down to earth and concluded humans weren't intelligent because the first person it met couldn't simulate quantum systems in their head, would that be fair?

[dash2]

The original question was whether LLM's are "smart" in a human-like way. I think that if you gave a human a computer, he'd be able to solve 3-digit multiplications. If LLM's were human-like smart, they could do this too.

[Timon3]

Did someone train LLMs with "access" to a computer? If not, why would you expect them to be able to use something they have never seen?

[dash2]

“It’s right there, you stupid llm! Dammit, YOU’RE RUNNING ON IT!”

[Timon3]

I mean, I'm running on incredible amounts of highly complex physics and maths, but that doesn't mean I can give you the correct answer to all questions on those.

[walleeee]

I dunno, I simulate quantum systems (you, myself, my friends) in my head all the time