[kelnos]

Being responsible for making EVs popular does not give them the right to do whatever they want.

Tesla didn't push EVs out of the goodness of their hearts. They did so because they thought they could build a profitable company. Tesla's execs and shareholders are being compensated quite well already for their investment of money/time/work. No need to give them a blank check to do anything we (as a society) don't want them to do.

[tegmark]

yeah it does. the EV market wouldnt exist if they hadnt stuck to their guns. people were adamant that EVs could never be real cars before the roadster and model s. when somebody invents something, we allow them to have a monopoly on that invention for a time. it incentivizes innovation but it also gives power to people who actually have the right idea, see things as they could be rather than just follow the herd. tesla definitely invented the modern EV market and the modern EV drivetrain. and now the same people who called me an idiot in 2011 are here saying that tesla is morally obligated to make their cars “hacker friendly” or whatever nonsense? all i can say is if youre so smart then why werent you asking for this in 2012 and 13? you could have asked musk directly at the shareholder meeting.

[lenkite]

Well Musk believes otherwise and explicitly stated Tesla's patent pledge https://www.tesla.com/legal/additional-resources#patent-pled...

[tegmark]

lol. am i supposed to type out a response to this? yes, i am aware of musk opening the patents. it doesnt conflict with or negate anything ive said. it certainly isnt an indication that elon musk believes teslas products should be subject to the will of the idiotic masses.