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by cstejerean 1022 days ago
The middle generations that are born and will die on a spaceship didn't sign up for that. And they might not accept their fate willingly. Relying on intermediary generations to comply seems like a big flaw in any multigenerational ship plan.
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throwawaylinux 1022 days ago
Nobody born has signed up for anything.
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ChatGTP 1022 days ago
No but they should have access to basic things such as to be able to experience the natural world. It would be pretty fucking depressing if you were born into a shitty spaceship and told your job is to pro-create so the next generation can experience something fun?

The earth is a space ship, the best space ship we'll ever get, we just take it for granted.

Some have also commented that we're like already as far out in space as we're ever going to get. There is probably a lot of truth to that.

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kubanczyk 1021 days ago
> The earth is a space ship

OK...

> the best space ship we'll ever get

Huh? How do you know that?

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throwawaylinux 1022 days ago
> No but they should have access to basic things such as to be able to experience the natural world. It would be pretty fucking depressing if you were born into a shitty spaceship and told your job is to pro-create so the next generation can experience something fun?

That's your assertion. Billions of people have been porn into abject poverty and disease and without hope for better, have learned (and in many ways seen and experienced) much less than these space travelers would. Unless we're going the forced sterilization and eugenics kind of route, I'm not sure how it's consistent to impose your own morals and standards onto others' procreation.

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ChatGTP 1022 days ago
Billions of people have been porn into abject poverty and disease and without hope for better, have learned (and in many ways seen and experienced) much less than these space travelers would.

I don't think this is relevant or a good counter argument, we could easily say that both scenarios are less than ideal? Being born into poverty at least means you might have options in life like, you might actually meet enough people to find someone who you actually want to procreate with? What's that going to look like being stuck in what is esentially a small shopping mall your whole life?

I'm not sure how it's consistent to impose your own morals and standards onto others' procreation.

Imposing morals? Trolling?

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jncfhnb 1021 days ago
Status quo bias.

> Being born into poverty at least means you might have options in life like, you might actually meet enough people to find someone who you actually want to procreate with?

This can be true on a spaceship too.

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throwawaylinux 1021 days ago
> I don't think this is relevant or a good counter argument,

I think it is. It's a pretty weak "argument" to begin with, more like just an assertion that it's wrong (because it's wrong).

> we could easily say that both scenarios are less than ideal? Being born into poverty at least means you might have options in life like, you might actually meet enough people to find someone who you actually want to procreate with? What's that going to look like being stuck in what is esentially a small shopping mall your whole life?

In terms of the number of people you would meet? Well it would look like almost everybody for the entire history of humanity.

> Imposing morals? Trolling?

I don't understand your question. Do you not believe that "they should have access to basic things such as to be able to experience the natural world" is imposing your own morals on the procreation of others?

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