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by jstummbillig 1024 days ago
PHP has as much client-side rendering as React SSR does.

I think the sleight of hand that is happening right now, and that gets people a little confused, is that React is shaping up to be this thing that handles both front and the backend where other solutions can't do that. Sure – but it does that by overloading and complicating what React once was (neither of which per-se negative, I think it's just an apt description of what is going on)

Where other solutions might have abstracted the frontend part into a thing with a different name (or not bother doing it at all) React chooses in a rather unprecedented move to call it all just... React (well, there's Remix and such, but alas). Which is fine, as long as you understand that this new "React" will now probably lead to "React Frontend Dev" and "React Backend Dev", because the work and the complexities that these rolls entail did not just disappear by rolling it into the same name.

It's not entirely clear if architecturally there are going to be more benefits than footguns, but I think it's cool that they are trying.
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pevey 1024 days ago
React borrowed these concepts from Solid, SvelteKit, and Remix.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. It’s pushing things forward. (And by forward, I mean, yes, also a little backward. We had server-side dominance with php, etc., then frontend-only with Vue/React… Now we finally get to serve our cake and consume it, too.)

I sometimes hear snarky comments about the proliferation of all these frameworks. But here is the tangible benefit of that “competition.” (Really more cooperation than competition)

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ttfkam 1024 days ago
More like React scrambled to add a feature to check a box in a comparison chart with the upstarts no matter how cumbersome or disruptive the API changes ended up relative to existing codebases.

The new frameworks were poised to eat React's lunch, they knew it, and they needed something quick to hold back the rising tide.

They may succeed, but only due to inertia, not a better/cleaner solution.

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satvikpendem 1024 days ago
> The new frameworks were poised to eat React's lunch, they knew it, and they needed something quick to hold back the rising tide.

Not really, the percentage of users for Solid, Svelte, and Remix are vanishingly small. They're essentially testgrounds for React anyway.

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