| > Not sure if you meant to reply on an alt... Not at all, I am fairly open about it because I am making a statement. The statement is that there are bad actors in this forum who silence discussions to push a certain narrative. Dang and whoever else moderates this is very much free to ban me, but they haven't. > I am sorry you have personally experienced hatred like this. Even with experience, such fears should not fuel oppression of the world. See, I have a desire to live a life just like you, I have siblings, I have a mother, and they love me and I love them. How will they feel when they will have to bury me because some rando decided to murder me? You see, in this conversation you are putting the blame on me, for what you believe that I am doing - which I am actually not, if you read my comments in this thread I am very much against censorship as long as it doesn't devolve to hate-speech. My desire to live a life in decency will always trump your desire to enable harm - because those are the consequences - by allowing everyone and anyone to say anything they want and amplify that. That is what you are doing. Instead of asking what the consequences are for hate-speech, how being bombarded with such speech changes your very own view of reality - just as any other interaction does because such is the way the brain behaves - you are more concerned with telling me to suck it up for being afraid for my life. In your mind you have vilified me and put me in a position I never did myself. You did all that implicitly. Notice that in none of comments did I directly support censorship. What I support is accountability for the consequences of one's actions - that accountability includes stochastic terrorism. You can't assume that everything and anything you do happens in a vacuum, people are not closed systems, everything we do matters. I wouldn't be in this position if I was allowed to be in this world, just like you are. > If you are unsafe there are likely actions you can take outside of intentionally trying to disrupt the rights of everyone else You are literally putting the blame on me for - let me check my notes - potentially getting murdered by a crazy person, and not on the person who pushed the crazy one over the line, gave them a gun, and pointed at me. You are literally blaming me for my inability to be invincible, and for wanting to live a life of the same quality as you are. Sure, I can go get locked in an apartment - god knows I am already doing that because I am terrified - what more can I do? Do I not deserve the chance to live a regular life? Why are you not blaming those who put me in this position in the first place? Why aren't you blaming those who actively cause harm and instead blame the victim for dying or getting assaulted, or harassed or worse? > Maybe not. Much as they want to force their opinions into reality, you want to force yours. What opinion am I forcing on anyone? That murdering people is bad? That minorities deserve to live regular lives as everyone else? > Hate crimes against minority groups have lessened over time, Really because I see the opposite. Minorities are being denied treatment that existed for decades because of fear mongering despite all actual evidence to the contrary. Is this not a hate-crime? Attacks against trans people have skyrocketed, and so have murders [1,2]. Please tell those families that you are okay with their children getting murdered, because a person can't handle not spilling vitriol. [1] https://abcnews.go.com/US/homicide-rate-trans-people-doubled... [2] https://time.com/6131444/2021-anti-trans-violence/ |
2. Hate shifts over time. As soon as old targets becomes stale, the manufacturing of narrative amplifies new opinions to shift hate to. With amplification of opinion comes more dissent against opinion. Further reach comes with further responsibility. Censorship does not solve this. Hate crimes have gone down at large but have increased against your particular group, which allows you to somehow throw out the overall statistic showing progress? Talking to other groups that have historically experienced hate might add some perspective for you as to how things have indeed gotten better.
3. Taking action to infringe upon rights many respect, only generates more dislike for the group pursuing infringement. We should find solutions to lessen hate without infringement on any group's rights. Violence is not a right, there is not a "freedom of violence" constitutional amendment. The current state of censorship attacks much beyond hate, but uses hate as the primary scapegoat, amplifying the abuse of minorities along the way.
4. I am going to disengage at this point. The use of multiple personas in a single thread to promote your opinions causes questions as to your true intent here. You seem to be fairly solidified in your stances regardless. I wish you the best and a life free of fear.