[hhlevnjak2]

> The irony is that scrum itself is often just a wrapper for a waterfall process with all the problems it comes with

I worked as an external employee in an environment that had a very functional scrum implementation. You had groomings, plannings, dailys, retrospectives. Every task was defined, estimated, time on them tracked to get better in estimating. You had scrum masters, capacity plannings. On the surface, it was all very functional and productive.

But the reality is, business analysts and product managers who had little knowledge of how the system works were in charge of talking to clients, writing specifications, getting them approved and ready for development, and very little possibility to iterate if there was a problem in the definition.

It was very efficient at building a bad product. :D

[doctor_eval]

Yes, exactly this.

I saw a quote recently from Erik Dietrich that said, "A lot of people mistake activity for productivity” and that describes every scrum implementation I’ve ever seen.

It’s a cargo cult, no doubt in my mind.