[bath_]

This is horribly depressing, to the point where if we're so doomed in the next 10 years I ask:

- Why do I care what happens?

- Why do I go on living?

- Most importantly, what is the solution, or mitigation, or any level of alternative other than accepting defeat?

It's harsh, but I feel that at this point, if you're not offering _some_ kind of solution to this issue, then what is the answer other than to smile and wave as we descend into this "apocalypse".

I understand this may not be a popular approach, but I have to _believe_ that we can avoid this scenario, because otherwise I lose all motivation to even try. Even if all is doomed, I have to try.

[RetroTechie]

> Most importantly, what is the solution, or mitigation, or any level of alternative other than accepting defeat?

Consume less - as much as practical.

Right now, I'm hearing continuous noise of a busy highway. If you sit right next to it for some time and watch traffic pass by, what do you see?

Lots of cars with only 1 person in it. Loads of vans from building contractors, carpenters, home improvement stores, painters, etc, etc. The DHL's, UPSes, Ikea's & Amazons in this world.

They are driving around because 'you' wanted a new floor layed in the house. Even though the old one's still good (just your taste changed).

Or because 'you' are so attached to your car that bicycle or public transport is out of the question. And carpooling is too much hassle.

Or because 'you' ordered shiny new gadget from online store.

All of that = CO2 emissions. Not some far away factory in China, or some company you've never dealt with somewhere in the logistics chain. Or chemical plant that manufactured the pvc for your new floor.

No... you.

(okay, a few more of you ;-)

Just do less of that. Slow down, use your stuff a bit longer until it's really worn out, buy 2nd hand if possible. And enjoy life.

It's our building, producing & hoarding 'stuff' that's killing us. Not us sitting in backyard & enjoying a good book.

[rexpop]

Many of us will survive this apocalypse. Most of us, even if our quality of life suffers. The fact is that you have much more leverage over the carbon economy than you have been exercising, and even if you're not going to work against global calamity, you can at least work to prepare your community to ride it out in relative safety.

[myshpa]

We can do it ... but we may have to change ourselves. It seems that the people are not ready. Maybe those are right who say that only massive catastrophe may wake people up. The problem is that there may not be a chance to rebuild after that.

[nuancebydefault]

We will try, and chances are, imo, big that we will succeed. We do not see the whole picture.

[myshpa]

Nobody is at the wheel, and nobody's really solving this. Nothing that has been done so far has made a dent. We're still consuming and polluting more and more, and we're not just driving to the cliff with the pedal to the floor; we're already beyond the ledge.