[dabluecaboose]

> There's Elite Dangerous and No Man's Sky, as well as Eve online depending on what you're looking for.

None of those offer all the things as SC even at it's current state. Elite Dangerous is closest and even then they're just different games inherently.

> there are obvious alternatives to StarCitizen out there that's not vaporware.

You can download and play Star Citizen right now. It is, by definition, not vaporware.

[password-234]

I've tried NMS and Elite, Elite was on the right path but fell off hard.

Starcitizen is for better or worse unlike any other. Until another game comes where me and my friends can hop onto a capital ship and travel to planets etc seemlessly - ill switch. But nothing on the horizon yet.

Also love the ground vehicle gameplay too and its quite underrated.