[ccakes]

If any Firefox devs or PMs are reading, PLEASE build even a simple tab grouper into the browser natively.

Regardless how recommended a given extension is, all tab manager extensions require access to all web content which is too much. I’d rather use something built in but barebones rather than an addon

[wintermutestwin]

While you have their attention:

Where are native vertical tabs? Or at least a settings checkbox to turn horizontal tabs off.

[kej]

A checkbox in settings would be better, but you can turn off the original tabs with a user style file, just in case anyone reading is unaware.

[rmwaite]

My concern with this is I’ve seen for a while now that these user chrome features are deprecated. I depend on them a lot and I dread the day they actually go away.

[quickthrower2]

My killer ask for any browser, on Windows is the option to have groups create different taskbar icons, so I can treat some sites like a seperate “app”. For example youtube music.

[BeFlatXIII]

Tree Style tabs should be a built-in feature, IMO. Make the browser great again.

[ronjouch]

Yes a million times. Please go vote for issue https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1509350 (and please add to the discussion, but do refrain from pure-noise "me too" comments :). If no one comments there today, tomorrow I'll post a summary of stuff discussed here in this HN thread, I see are a couple things worth surfacing.

As to why a "simple native tab group" is important even when there are umpteen extensions offering some version of it (in addition to OP's legit point about addon permissions), my take is in comment 40, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1509350#c40 .

TL;DR: 1. Feature parity with a Chrome feature that is actually visibly used a lot (from direct observation at work), 2. Shipping a simple high-quality "baseline".

Pleaaaaase, Moz PMs & devs, some attention to this!

[ronjouch]

> "If no one comments there today, tomorrow I'll post a summary of stuff discussed here in this HN thread, I see are a couple things worth surfacing."

Done in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1509350#c49

[smcleod]

This is legitimately the only thing I've been asking for from Firefox the last <many> years, I don't really care about webgpu, usb device access would be nice as would fine grained user-controllable permissions for extensions - but all I really want every single day is a better way to group tabs. Hell - just being able to group them by colour like you can in Chrome would be a huge leap forward. I've tried all the well known extensions and I'm not a fan of any of them.

[Terretta]

If you use Mac and haven't looked outside Firefox, note that vertical tabs are in Safari, with groups, and group sync.

Vertical tabs (plus tree tabs) are also in Kagi Orion. Which unlike Safari also runs (a subset of) Firefox (and Chrome) extensions, about 70% as of their last FAQ update:

https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#extensions

[wyuenho]

I'd be completely satisfied if they brought the old MRU tab ordering back. The MRU tab extension is a very poor substitution for it.

[aio2]

Are you talking about the thing Chrome does with it's tabs where you can put them together in sections and give them a colour and name?

[ronjouch]

Not OP, but yes for sure.

Most importantly, it lets you collapse/expand groups with just a click. Makes for a fluid built-in no-frills "putting project A tabs aside to work on project B while keeping tabs ordering and grouping, without the extra friction of bookmarks or profiles" workflow.

[smcleod]

Not OP either but yes - that is exactly what I want!