[dmode]

This is such a ridiculous hyperbole, I am surprised it is the top comment on Hacker News. There are still 40 mn people in California, and people still move here.

- Housing is ridiculous -> pay can also be ridiculous. And housing can be cheap once you move out of Bay or Los Angeles

- Utilities are ridiculous --> You don't really pay that much because of temperate weather

- Political issues are rampant --> Not sure what this means. I mean, political issues are rampant everywhere. Have you seen Florida ? Whole politics is based on around being "anti woke". Or Texas ? Ridiculous stunt (flying migrants, banning abortions). I prefer not to live in a Christian theocracy

- Homeless and crimes everywhere --> Do you get your news from Fox ? There is like zero homelessness and very little crime outside of very large cities. Even in SF, once you are out of downtown, there is very little homelessness. In fact, SF has some of the lowest violent crime rates

- Own a car and bike is a hassle --> LOL, what ? Is that why every family has multiple cars and bikes ? And is by far the leading EV ownership rates in the US ?

- Racial and political ideologues.... --> Again reads like a Fox news headline. Perhaps you prefer the book banning ideologies and "benefits of slavery" being taught elsewhere. My kid goes to a public school here and it is amazing the amount of effort is put in to be inclusive

- One can lose entire livelihood.... --> Can't even, insanely ridiculous

[paxys]

> I am surprised it is the top comment on Hacker News

Sadly not too surprising if you have followed this forum over the last few years. It is still great for certain topics, but for several others the top voted comments are all just the standard talking points pushed to Fox News hosts.

[galaxytachyon]

Am I out of touch? No, it must have been the others who are wrong.

[galaxytachyon]

I have lived in Houston and the bay area. Comparing the two, I prefer Houston.

Like I said, pay is only ridiculous if you are in software. For the vast majority of other profession, what is ridiculous are the prices and taxes levied on them.

The matter with politics might be subjective. But imo, all the stunts and stupid things the "Christian theocracy" are doing do not affect the majority of people living in Texas. The kind of regulations and political stunts in CA on the other hand directly affect the middle class. Affirmative actions and the DEI overreach have more effects on an average person's life than bussing migrants around and banning children's books. One is an inconvenience. The other potentially involves job loss and large changes in life. That is my view.

Also, before you jump to conclusion. I am a minority in STEM and I consider myself agnostic. The most extreme examples of the "Christian theocracy" you mentioned only happen rarely and personally I was never affected by any of them even though I should by the type of demographic they are allegedly targeting. In SF though, I am directly affected by the taxes and fees to pay for homelessness and DEI issues while still worried on my way home about crimes and whether my car's windows were smashed or not. And homelessness is still an issue even in the suburb like Brisbane and Daly City.

[CameronNemo]

Putting undernourished and sick children on a multiple days long bus ride to Chicago, causing their death, is "an inconvenience"? Maybe to you. Sounds like you just found your kind of people...

[galaxytachyon]

What was the cause of death? Before you start ad hominem attacks, best to get your facts straight. Or maybe you are more concerned with outrage and tribalism than knowing what actually happened.

Food and water and medical attention were provided. Consent was obtained. Nobody was forced on the bus. Autopsy was inconclusive. This happened once in 30,000. Those are facts.

If the child died because she was put in an air-conditioned vehicle with food and water, then not much would have changed if she was to stay at the detainment facility where condition is just the same.

Here is a little-known fact you probably don't know: migrants choose which destination they want to go to, i.e. which bus they will board. Many of them took the bus voluntarily because they want to get to other cities for cheap and the bus is basically free. It is almost a public service for them. At the bus destination, often there will be arrangements to accommodate them, either by connecting them to their family, providing assistance, or routing to other destinations of their choice. Did you know that or you thought they were herded like cattle on a bus and dropped off in unknown locations that they know nothing about?

[CameronNemo]

Yeah... Sounds like you found your people. Glad you live far away from me.