Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by Torkel 1021 days ago
Same with EU-issued visa cards! As I learned when visiting in July.

You can charge up the iphone suica balance using cash in the machines... a bit weird but that's what I did.

Getting back home first thing I did was get a mastercard to complement my visa, as it seems EU mastercards still works to charge Suica.

It would be interesting to read about why this happened, it feels like there are interesting payment processing details to learn from it :)

2 comments

As a test I just successfully charged my Suica in my iPhone (card was issued in 2019) with my EU-issued Visa (issued 2021) through Apple Pay. Is there maybe some another condition that may influence whether it works or not?

Edit: this article explains it: https://atadistance.net/2023/03/15/troubleshooting-apple-pay... My Visa is actually listed as one of those which still work ("Some VISA debit cards work for adding money to Suica (DKB, Hyundai Zero, Revolut works depending on the country of the account, no other issuers confirmed).")

Really? Interesting! I tried with at least two different EU (Swedish) visa cards back in July and none of the cards I had worked.

Not in Japan anymore otherwise I would have tried again.

This article, linked to from a sibling comment here, seems to indicate it shouldn't work for you :) https://atadistance.net/2023/07/15/foreign-visa-cards-blocke...

edit: ha. you read the same articles better than I did.

Yes as per the article I'm luckily an outlier. :) But this is a very unfortunate situation especially in combination with the stopped sale of physical cards. I still have an old PASMO which I used for a commuter pass in 2016-2017 so I may be able to use this card when I visit Japan again next year. Well, unless these cards expire. Not sure about that.

Is it known whether this foreign-VISA situation is supposed to resolve and get fixed eventually? The article didn't mention whether the current situation is on purpose or an error. I fear that if this is on purpose it might actually get worse and other foreign cards eventually stop working as well.

>Not in Japan anymore otherwise I would have tried again.

I'm neither. Does this change anything? I could charge from home directly in ¥. But the card is from DKB so expected to work.

Here's an English blog that looks like it focuses a lot on Suica/Japanese contactless payments goes a bit more in depth both on the Visa issue and the FeliCa/NFC-F shortage: https://atadistance.net/2023/08/01/how-long-will-the-suica-c...