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by metaphor 1031 days ago
> It’s not trivial to add up 2’13/32” + 5’11/16”, there’s too much carrying over and doubling to equalize the denominators to do easily in your head.

Seems like straight forward arithmetic, but if using a calculator is a must, the HP 35s (RPN daily driver) handles fractional calculations elegantly without being a "very specific carpenters calculator":

  2.13.32 [Enter] 5.11.16 [+]

  8.09375
...and if you wanted that decimal as fractional display instead:

  [-->] [FDISP]

  8 3/32
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Or you add 6.112cm to 14.446cm, which probably even children can do in their head reliably. But sure, you can do it using fantasy units, too :)
Now change that first number from 6.112 to 6.789 and watch that same child stumble.

I've always found it curious how Europeans pride themselves in speaking their native tongue + English...except its always a cultural flame war-inciting impediment when the communication barrier involves a mere arithmetic unit conversion. Doubly ironic when most of the world is consciously aware of what the prevailing USD exchange rate with their native currency is without complaint, whereas the average American simply doesn't have a clue how many Euros a US dollar gets them.

Similarly, if the Brits want to reference weight in stone, or Canadians want to sell me lumber in board-foot, I don't find that offensive in the least; I'm of the position that the impetus is on me to understand their measure, not for the one communicating to conform to my norms.

Why would there be any stumbling? Because it's two 6s? Because there's two carries?
The child would clearly have to mentally carry four times all the way down the chain:

    11 11
    14.446
  +  6.789
  --------
    21.235
Really, this is primary school maths. I learnt about carries when I was seven.

Every single thread (both here and on Reddit) I've seen says 'oh, decimals are too hard'.

This is a terrible indictment of the American schooling system if your only defence against metrication is 'I can't do decimals'. It is you lot who have to catch up.

> This is a terrible indictment of the American schooling system if your only defence against metrication is 'I can't do decimals'. It is you lot who have to catch up.

To the contrary, if you read into the full context of this thread, the underlying contention isn't that we're incompetent at decimal arithmetic, but that the rest of the world (and apparently some Americans too) believes our common fractional arithmetic is too much of a mental burden, and I don't blame those individuals either.

Indeed decimal arithmetic is trivial to most grown adults, but that wasn't the point; the example was merely to highlight how just slightly changing a few numbers in the same sequence of operations serves as an effective counterpoint to the grandparent's assertion that "even children can do in their head reliably".

Americans are taught and handle metric units in compulsory school just fine, but most of us also practice imperial units on a daily basis as well. We're just not culturally predisposed to complain when everyone else conveys measure in the SI mks/cgs framework.

What’s so difficult with that? Just use pen and paper for calculations, you’re supposed to write down the result anyway. It’s a simple math.
The goalposts set by the grandparent was reliable mental arithmetic by a notional child:

> ...which probably even children can do in their head reliably.

You're moving the goalposts.

An indefinite number of applications exist where we can make meaningful decisions all day without ever needing to write results down.

Was that available on 48g perhaps?
Unsure with the 48g; trained myself since engineering undergrad days to not lean into graphing calculators. The feature existed since at least the 32sii, so it makes sense that successor 33s and 35s models also got it. Easily one of the most useful features that I've found for woodworking and converting arcmin/sec to decimal as the most common usecases.
I know of sexagesimal mode in 48g and used it, but haven't encountered anything for imperial units