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by andomdeazzz662 1019 days ago
I'm also increasingly sick of the Linux eco-sphere these days. I think there is something to be said in favor of Linux ditching POSIX and other standards and that this inclination has definitely had some positives and pushed us forward further than we may have gone otherwise in some areas.

But I don't think a total lack of a standard was what should have replaced Unix standardization efforts.

I think my real issue with Linux is that it is increasingly complicated (both the kernel and most distributions). It doesn't feel as "open source" as some of the not even quite open source Unix's, because you need to be a domain expert in a particular area for you to be able to modify it correctly. When you've got a team of people responsible for the whole OS as a single package, there is some incentive to keep your area maintainable. You never know who is going to be switching teams or knocking on your door. With Linux the incentive structure is to make a name for yourself as "the <particular subsystem or utility program> guy", which opens up a lot of potential for feature creep and overengineering.

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As someone moving back and forth between BSDs and Linux over the years. I think I can relate to this feeling.

On Linux you inarguably have more options in terms of software, higher performance, better device driver support, etc. But even when you participate on the level of a distribution you still have the feeling that many components are at times poorly understood by your fellow developers (do not get me wrong though, I have plenty of respect for them) and that the direction for many parts that are essential to you is made elsewhere.

On the contrary, on the BSDs you get a spectrum of pragmatism, idealism, goals, etc. under a single roof. As I was younger I also found it hard to understand how limited the scope of say OpenBSD was in that they would not care about certain use cases: "You want to play the latest games? Why not get a Windows desktop or a console?! Now let me get back to try to figure out how to handle the insanity of locales, while keeping the code complexity from not going through the roof!". Perhaps it was some sort of "replace Windows with a single solution" drive inside of me? Not that "Linux users use Linux because they hate Windows. BSD users use BSD because they love Unix." is necessarily always true, but as I grow older I believe I can see better what it is hinting at.

I do not think I can say that one is better than the other in some sort of absolute truth sense. However, I can say that personally I tend to enjoy the BSD world much more as a user and (limited) contributor. I am willing to make the sacrifices and rethink my software dependencies and what hardware I can use, not because it makes me better than others, but because I enjoy the understanding of the software I rely on and tight community that comes with it.

Unrelated, andomdeazzz662, we seem to have vouched you back into the world of mortals. But do note the comment I made earlier [1].

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37290633