[ethbr1]

I'd want that for my kids, because I think it'd be net-best for them.

Clearly, I'm not talking about extreme abuse.

But I am talking about more discomfort than I (as the parent) would want for the child in my ideal world.

Parenting is always wanting your child to suffer as little as possible. But a little suffering is good in the long run for the child.

Thus, the fundamental tension in letting parents be the ultimate arbiters of a child's experience.

[whatshisface]

You want your children to experience more abuse than you want them to experience?

[ethbr1]

I think you're intentionally using term the abuse, in contrast to the words I used, to be inflammatory.

But yes, I think it's healthy for my children to experience more suffering than I, ceteris paribus, would permit them to experience, if I were omnipotent.

[whatshisface]

I'm using the word abuse because I am referring to abuse as distinct from the abstract kind of suffering that's impossible to have any opinions for or against because it might include hiking long-distance. ;)

[ethbr1]

Where does a kid walking up to your kid and saying "That shirt looks dumb on you" once a week fall?

[whatshisface]

Pretty far north of some of the things that happen in the rougher of our public schools.