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by somewhat_drunk 1022 days ago
Russia invaded an ally whom we promised to protect, who is also rich in natural resources, and is a strategic chokepoint for a future Russian invasion of Europe proper.

Ukraine had problems with corruption, but they were trending in the right direction, and their democracy was working. Russia, on the other hand, has a long history of murdering political dissidents and journalists, and their democracy was a sham. Ukraine was clearly ideologically aligned with western interests; Russia was clearly not.

I'm wholly in favor of inducting Ukraine into NATO once this is over and helping them rebuild. Russia can get fucked.

China is watching. We fail to honor our promise to Ukraine at Taiwan's peril. Appearing weak on our promises to allies invites World War.

Finally, $75 billion is an absolute bargain to effectively destroy one of our longest-standing enemies.

Defending Ukraine was correct morally, ethically, ideologically, and strategically. It boggles my mind that right wingers argue against it with a straight face.

You are spreading Russian propaganda. Stop doing that.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/exposing-the-myth-...

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> Russia invaded an ally whom we promised to protect

Lindsey Graham and John McCain and Hunter Biden had interests there, but Ukraine is not in NATO and was set up in 1994 to not ally with either side. USA has no actual defense agreement there yet is now running a proxy war against Russia.

If that is good for USA, then let Congress debate it and declare war. Russia is not my enemy, despite the propaganda.

Ukraine is not in NATO, but they are absolutely an ally. Why would you allow Russia to invade a potential member of NATO as well as an ally as well as someone who you persuaded to give up their nukes in exchange for a promise to defend them in just this circumstance is beyond me.

We had every reason to defend Ukraine, and very few to abstain from doing so. That we also got Russia's collapse for a pittance in the bargain is just icing on the cake.

You have drank the koolaid, and are likely still doing so. Stop doing that.