[rasz]

wtf is "authorized part"?

https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/businesspers...

>Under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (MMWA), it is illegal for a manufacturer to void a warranty or deny coverage if a customer has a repair or maintenance performed by an independent repair shop or using a third-party replacement part (unless the original manufacturer provides the service or part for free).

[misnome]

Wait, so if a third party repairer puts in a dud part that fries the rest of the system, they still have to provide a warranty replacement of the whole thing?

[bdowling]

They mean OEM part.

[rasz]

and requiring those is illegal in US

[projektfu]

But it's not illegal to require a licensed "authorized" repair shop use the OEM part, nor is it illegal (unfortunately) to decline to sell OEM parts to unlicensed repair shops.

[nomel]

Nobody is saying make them illegal.

What I want is to known if a device I had repaired, or am about to purchase, has a knock off in it. This could be displayed in the "about device".

[2Gkashmiri]

i wish the same can be made in other countries.

car manufacturers market "genuine OEM spare parts" as if we have a moral and social obligation to pay for their parts 4X than the same part from cheap chinese knockoff brands.

They too are buying from the same chinese OEM, just their "brand sticker" gives them the power to charge a high premium

[nomel]

> They too are buying from the same chinese OEM, just their "brand sticker" gives them the power to charge a high premium

This is actually incredibly false. I have several collages that came from the automotive industry, for automotive chips. The automotive industry is not using the same Chinese OEM parts, for any of the safety critical ICs, which come in some of those expensive OEM parts.

In fact, they have incredibly complicated processes, with full supply chain lockdown/inspections, to keep cheap Chinese knockoffs out of the supply chain, in direct response to human death from Chinese knockoffs making it into the supply chain. When a knockoff is used, and it makes it into a car, that vendor is blamed, when someone dies. Vendors put extreme pressure on these companies to make sure they don't make the news for killing people/recalls.

All of that, obviously, adds a premium over the unqualified knock offs.

I'm not sure about structural parts, but I suspect it's similar.

[rasz]

Doesnt have to be Chinese vendor. https://www.youtube.com/@M539Restorations prides himself on using OEM parts, but he often goes directly for actual manufacturer because that source tends to be much cheaper than BMW dealer. The only difference is marker/machining over BMW logo on the part.

[bdowling]

Personally, I do not want anymore cheap Chinese knockoff parts anymore. I don’t want screens that have off colors, batteries that last 1/3 of their rated power, toner cartridges that last half as long as the OEM ones, etc.

I really am willing to pay 4X the price for something that’s twice as good. Half as good isn’t good enough for me anymore.

[Dah00n]

Good for you that you can go to Apple themselves then. That doesn't mean others should be forced to do the same.

[bdowling]

Who exactly is forcing them to?

There are tons of non-Apple repair shops they can go to.

[LightHugger]

Apple will not sell you the parts period.

[nomel]

Please see the article that this comment section is under: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/hell-freezes-over-as...