[ransackdev]

Ah yeah I guess it’s true they don’t have permission. At the end of the day I think it comes down to the owner choosing to press charges or not, or even detecting it and subsequently reporting it. I would guess that if the systems have ways to be hacked, the owners likely won’t see the hacks until the white/grey hat reports it to them.

Somewhat related, the hackers submitting a vulnerability disclosure to the companies are in a very “extortion-y” dynamic. I wonder how often companies get something like “pay us X amount or we let the world know today instead of waiting for you to fix it”.