[duped]

Why do people care so much about a "standard?" Multiple implementations are not actually a Good Idea nor does "The Standard" help you on the ground as a programmer.

I also don't really see zealotry anymore. I see new projects being written in Rust left and right, and C++ developers bitching about it because they don't want to learn it or have been so scarred by moderately advanced language features implemented poorly they think Rust does it poorly too.

[qsdf38100]

C++ developers don’t "bitch" about rust, in my experience. They either get interested in rust or ignore it. The drama seems to always come from the rust evengelists, that won’t accept someone who don’t agree c++ should be banned and rust is the savior language…

[pdimitar]

It's legitimately baffling if you actually believe that.

99% of all programmers just want their chosen tool to succeed.

Consider that you might have been influenced by rage-baiting trolls. That's understandable and it happened to all of us at one point.

Don't judge a community by the 0.1% bad apples. Every community has them.

[qsdf38100]

Sorry, it's baffling if I believe what exactly? That rust supremacists are more than 0.1% of the community? Then I can only speak of what I hear from it, and my experience is that more often than not, the discussion ends up with an implied ultimatum: either you agree that using c++ instead of rust is irresponsible and wrong, either you are being "a part of the problem" and should not be programming. I'd like to be wrong and happened to have came across mostly bad apples.

[pdimitar]

> The drama seems to always come from the rust evengelists, that won’t accept someone who don’t agree c++ should be banned and rust is the savior language…

This. This is what I find baffling that somebody can believe in. Every community has the 0.1% of insufferable zealots and Rust is no exception.

I worked with absolutely brilliant Rust programmers that made me question if I know anything at all about programming in general -- and I have 21.5 years of experience.

I keep seeing your sentiment expressed in a number of Rust threads which becomes more and more confusing with time because I scarcely see anyone at all advocate zealously for Rust but I am seeing plenty of people like you who keep insisting that Rust fans are torturing them. :D

It gets funny at one point.

I mean, try to be more data-driven. Scan the last 5 big Rust threads and just try to do basic sentiment analysis. I have, and I am mostly seeing very balanced and curious debates. I haven't noticed any zealotry. Last time I noticed people being as annoying was I think somewhere back in 2018.

[slikrick]

yes, the language you use to describe something completely wrong is baffling.

you have been tricked into being mad at something that literally doesn't matter.

[qsdf38100]

Me? mad? Hmmm.

What about your language? And his?

"Bitching", "baffling", "rage-baiting trolls", "completely wrong", "literally doesn't matter".

My language: "in my experience", "more often than not", "I'd like to be wrong and happened to have came across mostly bad apples."

So, I'm not the one who is "mad" and "bitching" here. You are the one mad at me.

Who is being tricked? Sounds like you are tricking yourself.