[iksm]

> Why should the world bend to your desires?

Why should the world bend to your desires?

Why should we accept a smartphone-dependent society ? Because it pleases you or because this is imposed by the top and you just accept it, then find all the other just being morons ? :)

[scarface_74]

> Why should we accept a smartphone-dependent society

You don't have to. The Amish haven't. I have no problem with them making that choice either.

[iksm]

So for you, the future will be to be either Amish or google implanted ? Or would there be any place in between for "normal" people ?

Yeah those are both extreme points. But this is really violent to wish no middle in between.

[scarface_74]

Yes 90%+ including 94% of the homeless population have a cell phone. You are making the choice to be in the minority of people who choose to inconvenience yourself. The Amish have the courage of their convictions and never felt the need to ask the government to force their beliefs on other people.

[iksm]

However, having smartphones does not mean to go toward and accepting more and more situations where they do become mandatory to enter to public places.

As we expressed before in this topic, applications, websites and their back-ends depends themselves on lots of other things to be reliable. Not even considering security issues or privacy abuses that are reportedly common. This is not an individual problem, it's a society choice that does not seems to be advised.

I'm not against adding methods for accessing such places with some computer connected to a network just like smartphone, smart watches and stuff... If this can be useful, handy and neutral as tools should stay.

Still, I personally don't wish to find myself or anyone reduced, worse, denied by not wearing a specific smartphone (that would even maybe require to accept and sign many private third party conditions) for enjoying a direct interaction with "normal" people having a restaurant or a museum for example.

I would consider extreme to think that, because "everyone have a smartphone" then it should be normal to require that for everything. Implying (not blindly) accepting whole bunches of consequences (that most people seems to want to ignore because otherwise they would feel reduced or rejected) coming with.

Perhaps we don't see the same reality under the same prism and education. This is is not some point. It's just to say... What I sadly observe in general is a total lack of competence or understanding of the information technologies, actors and implications. And outside the fact it is another great source of pollution, they also represent a good opportunity for locking down people and tracking them from bad actors intentions.

So, I wish that it won't be misused or forced, particularly in situations were this wipes-out the freedom to do simple things that works fine, in any ways. Just what's in my mind if we would ask me my opinion.

Thanks for your exchanges there.