[BitwiseFool]

My understanding was that the name would be pronounced the same way, but as a native English speaker I don't even know what the umlaut does to the sound of the u. So I'm not even sure how the pronunciation would actually change.

In any event, if the Turkish government wants me to stop using "Turkey" I'm more than happy to call it Anatolia instead.

[evujumenuk]

I have solved this conundrum by calling the country "Türkiye", while calling the bird… also "Türkiye". Thus ensuring symmetry.

[dghughes]

I beleive it is pronounced Took-ee-ayy. It's Turkish for Turkey so I can't see why non-Turks would be using that pronunciation.

I don't say Spain in Spanish i.e. "Espanya" (phonetically) I just say Spain.

[Cyph0n]

Not a Turkish speaker, but I believe it’s closer to tur-kee-yeh. It’s pronounced almost the same in Arabic.

[dragonwriter]

> My understanding was that the name would be pronounced the same way

No, part of the rationale for the change is to reflect the different pronunciation (Türkiye) has three syllables

> but as a native English speaker I don’t even know what the umlaut does to the sound of the u.

While there is a change to the first vowel sound, and I think an even more subtle change to the second, the biggest difference is the existence of the third syllable, which is pretty evident from the spelling, even to most native English speakers.

[paint]

It is pronounced differently to the English "Turkey". For once, it has three syllables. Anatolia is the name of the large peninsula encapsulating most of Turkey, not the country itself.

[asimovfan]

Not all of Turkey is Anatolia though

[catlover76]

But Turks aren't originally from Anatolia anyways, and basically the only thing "Turkish" about the country/people is the language. :T

[Thrymr]

Is anyone "originally" from anywhere they live now, really, except maybe East Africa (at some point in time)? Anglo-Saxons came from the continent, "Americans" from Europe, Africa and elsewhere, Native Americans from Asia, etc.

[catlover76]

Yes, very true (and something I like to remind people who like to display ethnic and/or racial pride and talk about "heritage" etc)

[aiilns]

Greeks.

[Tagbert]

Dorian Greeks migrated into Mycenae in the early Bronze Age.