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by fishnchips 1037 days ago
So does Hashi! They have closed-source products like Terraform Cloud, and nobody's crying foul here. There's nothing wrong IMO with starting a project with a commercial license if you intend to build a business. The community outrage is mainly directed at the bait-and-switch scheme from a company that was praising the FOSS model left, right and center even earlier this year until they've suddenly changed their mind entirely
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jhoelzel 1037 days ago
but bait and switch would entail that its a) either no longer open source or b) no longer usable

you simply should not be able to make money of it without giving back to the original source owners.

It makes me wonder how many FOS projects might still be in full swing if we actually gave some of the value back we generated too

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fishnchips 1037 days ago
What does "giving back" mean?

[edit] And yes, it's no longer open source. BUSL is not an open-source license.

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jhoelzel 1037 days ago
yes it is. its just not a "do what you please with it" license, but you can still see and modify the source to your own liking
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fishnchips 1037 days ago
Even Hashi no longer considers it an open-source license. What other argument do you need?
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jhoelzel 1037 days ago
> 3. What are the implications of this change for end users of HashiCorp’s open source products?

> For end users who are using HashiCorp’s current open source products and new releases using the BSL license for their internal or personal usage, there is no change.

Source: https://www.hashicorp.com/license-faq#implications-of-change...

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_msw_ 1037 days ago
> 19. How does HashiCorp now refer to the freely available versions of products that were formerly known as open source (or OSS)?

> We have referred to versions of our products as either open source (OSS), Enterprise, or Cloud. Going forward, we will refer to the open, freely available versions as “community”. The BSL license is open, free, and source-available. However, it does not meet the definition of open source as defined by OSI, and that is why we will refer to the products as the "community" edition rather than the "open source" edition as we did previously. There are many references to open source on our websites and we are actively working to clarify these language changes in the coming weeks

Source: https://www.hashicorp.com/license-faq#details-on-nomenclatur...

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