[878654Tom]

HN is very slow in my eyes. The front page stays quite the same and the news is more targeted to technical people.

Is there also gibberisch and pure marketing? Yes. But that will always be on an open-platform.

Reddit was the same at the start but has now become "slower tiktok" where I even get the feeling 80% of the comments are placed by bots, marketeers,... Even my local subreddits became pure thrash.