[FridgeSeal]

> and at least in my circles many Snowflake sales employees are ex-Oracle.

given my previous experiences with Snowflake sales, this would not surprise me in the slightest. A small list of the incredibly pushy things SF sales teams did:

- called up junior team members and pushed them to sign a renewal deal - point blank refused to explain how credits translated to real world money when pressed about how much usage we were actually getting for our money - after being told not to, they continued to call team members and pressured them to commit to a renewal - TAC/support gave consistently vague and unhelpful explanations.

So yeah, Snowflake is an awful company and an overpriced product, and I hope it fails.

[catchnear4321]

sorry, but, there’s something about this that doesn’t smell right.

junior ic being asked to sign a contract makes zero sense. that’s insanity. plenty of managers at plenty of companies lack that level of authority.

sales teams use slimy tactics. that’s a given. time limits, multi-years, etc, etc, etc. trying to get the wrong person to sign is a different category entirely.

maybe you ran across the “best of the best” sales people there, but, this sounds sufficiently outlandish that i have to question it a bit.