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by firen777 1032 days ago
Why?

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I only care about the functionality and not whether the button should have round edges or the background having the right shade of grey. The consistent "feel" is nice to have (cough winform/wpf/uwp cough), but I would take "web-ish" applications over no application/crappy native application anytime (especially with Linux)
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pdntspa 1032 days ago
Native's not crappy, it's the best and most supported. We just happen to be in love with the web aesthetic and cross-platform. And that decisionmaking is mostly made by MBAs who see tech as a means to a financial end and not for the joy of writing good code

Web shit is fucking ugly, it eschews platform native conventions, and it just feels cheap.

But when I load up a winforms-esque app with toolbars and a statusbar and all the nice accoutrements we're accustomed too behaving in the way we are accustomed to... now I feel like I'm going to get shit done.

Literally the only electron app that feels serious is VSCode and the amount of optimizing MS has had to do has cut into seven figures

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refulgentis 1032 days ago
What makes Python native and JS not?

n.b. just because CPython exists doesn't mean Python is native.

n.b. native vs. web is colloquially a discussion from 00s macOS and 10s mobile about fidelity to the platform's standard UI toolkit.

n.b. when people shit on Electron its because of RAM use and lack of fidelity to the platform toolkit, and the waste of have a full JS engine compiled into an app, ideally they'd all use some base WebView from the system instead of Chromium

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pdntspa 1031 days ago
I am talking about using the platform's native windowing controls.

> ideally they'd all use some base WebView from the system instead of Chromium

Ideally they don't use any of that web trash and use something that favors the native platform conventions

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