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>The only way stuff gets done is through outreach and education. Once a critical mass of people truly believe that the only way forward is through intense environmental law reform, then it will happen

Exactly. I completely agree with the both sides bit, I just think we've got the direction of priority wrong.

Reduction in consumerism comes downstream from that type of education and outreach. Going at consumerism first just makes you seem like a reactionary who wants to "steal our gas stoves" to the ignorant propagandized, and unfortunately needed, masses