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> as early as the late eighties MS was "the C++" company.

Which to me was always ironic that they get perceived like that, given that C++ was born at Bell Labs alongside C and UNIX, and CORBA was born on UNIX, IBM and Apple were equally pushing for C++, and Borland always had better C++ tooling (to this day even as Embarcadero) than Microsoft has done during the last 30 years.

Now it is certainly true that WinDev is pretty much a C++ shop to detriment of anything else, including .NET.