[__jem]

> I found the discussion to be mostly very civilized and focused on finding solutions for those affected.

I really disagree with this characterization of the discussion. While there's plenty of more or less dispassionate comments focused on finding a solution, there's a greater number of people from the peanut gallery drowning that out with comments that amount to "I don't like this!" at best and questioning the integrity of dtonlay at worst. I feel like this demonstrates some of the worst features of open source software on github, where a bunch of nobodies feel the need to add their totally useless input rather than participating in good faith to find solutions and make the software better. You even see comments like that here, speculating that dtonlay is trying to break cargo and force people to use bazel, which is just an insanely conspiratorial and bad faith speculative interpretation that is obviously untrue and helps no one.

[shkkmo]

> While there's plenty of more or less dispassionate comments focused on finding a solution, there's a greater number of people from the peanut gallery drowning that out with comments that amount to "I don't like this!" at best and questioning the integrity of dtonlay at worst.

Only see comments doing that are on here.

The comments on the github issue are all pretty productive and constructive. The worst is the commentator that calls the approach 'despicable', but also provides constructive feedback and helps describe the problem.

[Ygg2]

> Only see comments doing that are on here.

Reddit comments went into tinfoil hat territory.

Discord comments went into calling for dtolnay's head.

[shkkmo]

Right, but the original characterization was clearly about the discussion on the github issue that was closed.

[Ygg2]

Even if it was civil it was going to annoy the hell out of maintainer due to sheer number of notificiations. I was by accident in Chrome WEI commit, simply horrible number of notifications.

Also I'm not lying about (albeit hyperbolic) calls for dtolnay's head. From one of Rust Discords.

https://imgur.com/a/ei6wzxW

[workingjubilee]

My remark was an observation based on the obvious public resentment, rather than necessarily an exhortation to do so. I promise you, I will not be so cagey and ambiguous when I actually call for someone's head on the chopping block.

[slikrick]

you just still don't make sense in your replies to users. literally no one asked about discord or reddit, this conversation is about the GitHub discussion.

don't move goalposts

[Ygg2]

I didn't move the goalpost - it's how I interpreted the peanut gallery part.

But ok, let's say limiting yourself only to GitHub comments, you can still find doubt casting and uncharitable interpretations:

> Nice micro-optimization. And if you bury your head deep enough into the sand, doesn't sacrifice anything important either.

> "The only supported way ..." is a polite way of saying "Works for me, WONTFIX".

> Another interpretation of an earlier comment is that he is all-in on bazel/buck and does not care about cargo. Both interpretations have me concerned.

> And ~80 comments with "This doesn't work for me".

Even in this case, the __jem comments make sense. Many people are just writing their version, "I don't like this, " meaning any interesting message is drowned out by noise. THAT will make any maintainer limit to contributors.