[akkartik]

When I compare crappy codebases in procedural C vs OO java, all I can say is that it took fewer lines of code to bring a project to the region of paralysis in C. Does that mean the C codebases accomplished less? I don't think so.

Part of the allure of Java: it gives the illusion that more progress was made before you entered that region.

We've all heard that you can shoot yourself in the foot with any language, but I think the implications haven't fully sunk in: There are no bad paradigms, only bad codebases.