[morby]

Regards your edit. I don’t have magical numbers to give you. I’m curious if you think that makes me wrong. But what I would like to see is a ratio where workers can buy a home, have a family, have some level of leisure, and be able to afford healthy food. That is not a reality today for people directly participating in the worlds largest market.

And also one that confers some sense of fairness. Tell me how this is at all fair to workers?

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2018/08/07/for-most-...

[andsoitis]

> workers can buy a home

Home ownership in the US is higher than in:

- New Zealand

- Sweden

- France

- Japan

- Austria

- Germany

- Switzerland

Home ownership in the US is lower than in:

- Kosovo

- Russia

- Norway

- Spain

- Italy

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/home-ownership-rat...

[morby]

I’m not entirely sure your point here maybe you can explain

[andsoitis]

Happy to.

My point is that home ownership isn't something that workers in even some of the most enlightened countries have. In contrast, there's incredibly high home ownership in some places that have dubious quality of life.

And so it begs the question why home ownership is voiced as such an important need of workers? I would argue that the incentive structures should be more aligned around good shelter.

Home ownership has been advertised and indoctrinated in the psyche as The American Dream, but I would question that dream...

[morby]

The vast majority of those countries have large inequality gaps. The only ones that don’t are listed under countries that have higher rates of home ownership

I’m not even about to begin to touch the notion that home ownership, which has been a staple of human history since time immemorial, is not important. That strikes me as a comment waayyy to deep in the kool aid