[DrCatbox]

Because what else can I pick? Ubuntu!? Ugh.

He tried Fedora earlier, we couldnt get it to work with his wireless-networking, SELinux always getting in the way as soon as he took his laptop with him somewhere, I got tired of pushing against a wall as I was becoming his support, and then he asked what Im using, how does it work for me. So Arch it was.

[freshhawk]

I suggest Linux Mint in that case. Ubuntu based, but no unity.

I totally understand where you are coming from, I love Arch and want to share how awesome it is from but all those problems were entirely based on a very poor suggestion for his use case. Arch doesn't "suffer" from this problem at all.

[zalew]

have you heard of Debian?