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by iiiieu 1032 days ago
Yeah, who could ever afford a £8 ping on a SWE salary. /s
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I'm not a Londoner, I only visit occasionally, but I think this may be a psychological response to a big increase.

I used to like going out in London: "everything's so cheap!" Especially, getting a nice beer at a random pub would cost significantly less than a random basic lager in Paris.

But this year, I was shocked to see the price increase. It's now pricier than Paris, even though Paris prices have also edged up a bit.

And since my cash is Euros, I always compared the prices as converted to euros, so this accounted for the conversion rate variations.

If you want cheap european beer just go to south europe. It will be cheaper than the water they charge you for.
Check Indeed, junior SWE jobs in London are listed starting at ~£25k/yr. Yes, £8 is expensive for a pint of lager.
I'm sure you _can_ find salaries that low but it's not typical. I started on £30k 6 years ago, and that company was infamous for underpaying grads! Most other junior developers I knew (at other companies) were on ~£40k or so.

£8/pint is also way more expensive than normal. I was out in Shoreditch last night, paid £6.70 for a pint of Brewdog, and that was more than I'd usually pay.

I can find $10 pints nearby, but I can also find $1 can nights, all within a mile or so of each other.
This is around what you can get in Warsaw.
Tax rates matter. It's easy to talk as a yank in a US salary with the tax rates in most states.

UK is insane.

-healthcare, etc, etc
Healthcare is terrible. It's mostly a scam with lots of propaganda and lack of perspective by British citizens. I'm not kidding. It's a system where the NHS will just push you forward and the insurance will cover fuck all and try to get you to the same NHS doctor.

It's the same nanny state style as some other European countries where they will try and sell you nothing over the counter because "you might abuse it" but they have a drinking and illegal drug culture to rival the best of them.

The US sucks if you're in the lower end of the spectrum without insurance but with insurance you actually get treatment. There's other countries where it's a pleasure to have private healthcare if you're middle class but many in europe definitely aren't. They'll just try to discourage you unless you're having an "my leg is detaching" type of emergency.

There's a reason why there's ads in the tube to "go to turkey to fix X health problem".

We should stop comparing having a health net for the jobless in a country with the US and typical quality of life/healthcare situation for a professional.

Edit: If I felt things worked, and people would eventually be able to afford houses and get into a better situation high taxes would be fine, but it's high taxes and policies that still benefit the richest/landlords/corporates/big pharma. It's corruption and classism. He former is widespread in many countries but the pretense otherwise is what is annoying.

Unless you want going out to be an Instagramable event instead of an after work one, then yeah.