[bgdam]

Perhaps, perhaps not. I'll get an EU passport next year. Oops scratch that the wait for naturalization is now upto two years. So I'll get an EU passport in 3 years, and then the right to be able to move to any of 27 countries at my discretion will more than make up for this time and energy I've spent here.

[pluijzer]

Sorry, but I hope you can show these countries a little bit more respect than the country that provided you with the ability to get very well paid, got you clean are and safety from crime.

[bgdam]

And this is where the fallacy is. Indian salaries are currently actually higher than German ones for my role. And that's without even accounting for PPP. The ground reality is different from what people assume it is. The base assumption always seems to be "People are moving to our coutnry from 3rd world countries because those 3rd world coutnries are not as good as us." That's totally not the case. There are a multitude of factors and every persons personal individual decisions.

And I love how there are multiple comments about disrespecting the country that I moved to. Why? Because I dared to criticize it instead of pretending everything is awesome? Yeah that's cool man. You do know that people criticize because they care and want the system to change for the better right?

[cinntaile]

What is disrespectful about voicing his opinion on things that he considers broken or in need of much improvement? It is entirely possible that German people are too complacent or privileged to see all the issues that he mentions.

[coffe2mug]

> thread with genuine complaints will be drowned in responses from native Germans who foolishly believe that Germany is a great country to live in because t

This is disrespect.

Complaining the system is OK but not attacking people.

Assume some one just says "All native Indian men are involved in harassing women/girls (incl. r-a-p.e)"

[bgdam]

Would replacing the word "foolish" with "naive" be better? Because that's what I intended to convey. Bad choice of words there.

[sony22]

These people live in a bubble. Will never understand....

[coffe2mug]

> Perhaps, perhaps not. I'll get an EU passport next year. Oops scratch that the wait for naturalization is now upto two years. So I'll get an EU passport in 3 years, and then the right to be able to move to any of 27 countries at my discretion will more than make up for this time and energy I've spent here.

Hope, you will come back and report here and guide Indians/expats... If it is better/worse elsewhere.

(As some Indian living in EU for about 30 years - it won't be better. What you are expecting is Ambani level treatment. Then become one )

> And this is where the fallacy is. Indian salaries are currently actually higher than German ones for my role. And that's without even accounting for PPP.

I often meet people like this in many Indian restaurants - everyone brags but even after 20 years they never go out of Germany.

If this level of greatness is true then why are you here? I can even tell you that even at this level of richness you won't

- get the clean/non-flickering electricity in India that one gets in Germany

- Even Abdulkalam got stuck in traffic.

[bgdam]

Lol, expecting your residence permit to not take 9 months to get renewed is Ambani level privilege? Expecting to get a doctor's appointment in a couple of weeks is privilege?

> If this level of greatness is true then why are you here? I can even tell you that even at this level of richness you won't

Believe it or not, it is true. You get paid more in India if you're an experienced and capable software dev than you do in Germany (unless you're employed by FAANG in Germany). As for why I don't do it - because even though I bitch about the bureaucracy and broken infrastructure, there are a billion other things that I love about Germany.

However just because I love a lot of things about Germany, doesn't mean I shouldn't criticize those things that are horribly broken - esp. when the politicians show no signs of wanting to fix them.

[faust201]

> I shouldn't criticize those things that are horribly broken - esp. when the politicians show no signs of wanting to fix them.

Of course, they do criticize. Are you even reading German news or staying only in thelocal.de or facebook for information.

so many subs incl r/legaladvicegerman constantly critical of system. I dare you to be critical of Indian system.

see Oliver Welke's "heute-show". Like Jon Stewart's Daily show.

Any change takes time. You have some bad experiences. But I know so many Indians/ Filipinos in Frankfurt with great experiences. Getting even PR residency in 1 month and passport in 6 months.

I have a feeling from your constant repeat of "I make more money than others across many threads" - it seems like you want things to happen 24/7 as you have MONEY. That is wrong.

Even a skilled plumber or skilled IT giant like you are treated equally. You think you need to be invited to FAST track like first class in planes and given service. That is not here. Go to UAE or Liechtenstein or Luxembourg.

Germany works more or less for middle class. Everyone is treated equally.

[cinntaile]

Where will you move afterwards?