[spacechild1]

The GIL is a bottleneck in applications that are CPU bound, e.g. machine learning, so naturally the NoGIL project is not that interesting to people writing server applications.

Of course, one may argue that you probably should not write CPU bound programs in Python in the first place, but that's another story :)

[jillesvangurp]

A lot of Java server based applications are multi threaded, not CPU bound, and tend to do a lot of things that generally can't work in python because of the GIL. It's too simplistic to think of this as something only of interest for CPU bound stuff. A lot of what Java applications do is of course the thread per connection style processing that older java applications still do (more modern ones would use non blocking IO and green threads). But there are also background threads doing useful work or more complex requests that fork off asynchronous work across multiple CPUs and then aggregate the results back as the response. Java apps tend to have vastly more threads than CPU cores. The exception is when things are CPU bound; then you want to minimize the context switching and end up with an number that is close to the number of CPU cores.

The GIL is not about the CPU but about enabling those kinds of things. With the current GIL in place it's very simple: as soon as you hit the global lock, everything stops until it is released. It doesn't matter how many CPU cores you have, they'll be idling while one of them holds the lock. There's barely any point in even trying to do that with the GIL in place. Forget about sharing data between threads. Mostly that's done via queues or databases in python. Removing the GIL will revolutionize a few things in key use cases for python:

- data processing & ETL

- event driven server systems

- machine learning and data science systems

They can all benefit from this and that's the reason a lot of people are pushing for this. The short term performance losses are not inherent to removing the GIL but just a necessary evil while the python developers deal with fixing the bottlenecks and a few decades worth of technical debt.

[spacechild1]

I/O functions (may) internally release the GIL. If the GIL becomes a bottleneck, you are not I/O bound by definition.

However, you are certainly right that not all server applications are I/O bound. I was a bit sloppy there.