[nomat]

The values system we have is very different compared to the 30s or 40s or even the 60s. The idea of a society where we all contribute and all benefit is dead and gone. The media has given up all pretense of caring and now preaches consumerism over god and country. Compromise is a sign of weakness. As is empathy for fellow citizens. In short, a big enough percentage of the people today don't want to improve the lives of their fellow americans, and they elect politicians to actively make this place worse.

Many of our "intractable" issues are policy issues and are completely fixable within 1 or 2 generations and honestly have always been fixable.

[gassius]

Every time I find some idealized piece about the 30s and 40s, and specially in USA, I wonder what kind of history was taught to the writer and by whom was taught, what was the agenda behind this history instruction?

I really hope we don't get back to any of that in 1, 2 or 100 generations

[nomat]

The concept of living in a society where people contribute to it for the benefit of the society instead of themselves is not a lamentable one. Regardless of whether or not nationalist propaganda is good or bad in your morality system, there's no civilization that lasts when the culture no longer believes in itself.

The idea of america is how this country can keep going. Yes the reality is that we often fall short. But defeatist naysayers who decry any attempt at making things better are worse than turncoats.

[rank0]

This is a hilariously naive take.

“My value system would create a utopia and everyone is evil because the world doesn’t subscribe to my nebulous beliefs”

Real unique idea!

[zo1]

We've been trying "your" value system for a while now, doesn't seem to be working. Not working is a nice way of saying degenerate, but no one seems to like that word right now.

[rank0]

Living standards have never been higher in the history of mankind. Go read some history!

I’m not even sure what you’re advocating for, but blind anger at the world is senseless. You want to replace our current society with a new one? That could mean bloody, violent revolution.

What do you even want? What does the world owe you?

[nomat]

You are exactly the person i'm describing. the glee you feel from acting like this is the only time of the day you actually feel like your existence means anything, because you imagine it making someone else feel bad, which makes you feel good.

[rank0]

Take a look in the mirror dude. I called you naive and this was your response:

“this is the only time of the day you actually feel like your existence means anything”

You are gripped by ideology. Don’t train yourself to think everyone is evil and you know best. It isn’t true.

[nomat]

because it's quite clear that this is your default attitude towards things and its absolutely toxic. you don't recognize it, and that is the issue. I don't think that everyone or even most people are evil. You're reading into the things i'm saying because you want me to be a certain type of person, but i am not.