[mcpackieh]

The 'paradox' of meeting violence with violence is the most mundane "I'm 14 and this is deep" shit. I'm pretty sure this is not what people are actually talking about when they talk when they bring up Poppler's "paradox". The "paradox" is used to persuade people that authoritarianism is okay when they do it because everybody thinks of themselves as the good guys. The whole point of tolerance is that you don't meet words with violence, not that you should be a pacifist who refuses to meet even violence with violence.

[tbrownaw]

> not what people are actually talking about when they talk when they bring up Poppler's "paradox"

Yes, that's the point. The popular way of using it to justify starting violence yourself is not an accurate reading.