They wrote a blog post about this change last week as if it was a good thing.
It's not a good thing: "you’ll be able to see the search bar and the left-hand guide menu, with no feed of recommended videos thus allowing you to more easily search, browse subscribed channels and explore Topic tabs instead."
I've got an android YouTube app on my Pico projector and it's never logged in, but it definitely remembers my history and only takes a few hours of watching to dial into a narrow band of recommendations.
So, this appears to be some legal derived obeyance, nothing more.
They’re deliberately being a petty asshole about it (that part isn’t good) but the end result is actually probably better for your brain so I’m fine with the pettiness.
I've had to clear my like and watch history a few times, since I'll watch foreign language tech videos and it often messes up my feed. History off was my default to fix yt's issues.
Theres a browser extension, pockettube, that turns yt into a cable network, tons of features, it really has made yt more usable and enjoyable.
I wish someone would make a pockettube type app that wasnt just for yt, but also worked with other video services. Maybe give me a priority of videos per platform, so I could pick the platform that makes the most money for the creator.
Its kinda like rss feeds with a front end, amazed nobody has made this, we have it for podcasts and news, but not video platforms? so strange.
I have heard that TikTok algorithm is great as long as you give it a bit time to learn your preferences. I don't think I would be able to survive that process, for exact same reason - it serves absolute dumb garbage, in hundreds.
My subscription feed is filled with things that are completely irrelevant because it doesn't adapt to my interests. I guess I could prune my subscriptions but why would I when the home screen works so much better? Also if you only watch people you're already subscribed to it will be hard to find new things. I don't know what makes you say the home screen is "just ads" because that's definitely not true
It's just ads because YouTube serves you think most clickbaity thing that will keep your eyeballs on screen (for the ads). Homepage doesn't care about discovery at all that's just a side effect.
I think maybe you should stop subscribing to channels you don't like?
I'd trade this for the eradication of shorts. The format is simply mind-numbing, and the volume of low effort content with zero relevance is a big turn off.
It think they mean more like "nothing on the home page looks interesting show different stuff". Sometimes YouTube will decide " I'm only going to recommend these 3 videos to you for the next month" or just misses the mark on the stuff I'm interested in watching
Youtube consistently forgets that I watched a video just a few days ago (no red line on the bottom of the thumbnail), and will suggest it over and over until you manually go to click on the ignore. Even recently they had a “suggest new” button on top near the “interests” buttons that would appear there, but I haven’t seen it for several weeks or maybe longer.
Youtube will also randomly switch a video I’m watching to 480p even though I pay for premium.
Their suggestion algorithm is also pretty bad to me, although maybe it works for some people.
as someone who is never logged in, this was actually the case a week ago. However, it has since returned to the old ways (which means that I get suggestions that are based on my history).
(Europe, Firefox)
I don’t enable watch history but would still like to see recommendations. Could be based on geography, or overall trends, or time of day. Or whatever.
Also, I find it funny to think Google isn’t tracking my watch history even if they aren’t showing it back to me. So why not try to have a positive user behavior.
I don’t like Google’s attitude of “we’re going to purposely make our product shitty unless you enable all the data settings we want you to and that maximize our revenue.”
They do the same thing with Maps and it’s offputting and one of the main reasons I no longer use them. The idea that I can’t set local cookies for common locations and must enable cloud saving is so stupid. So they made their map client worse by not allowing local places. I don’t mind my own phone knowing my home address, but don’t want it in my google profile.
Tell HN: YouTube is not showing home recommendations when watch history is off https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37157835
YouTube Will Display a Blank Home Feed If Your Watch History Is Turned Off https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37151135
YouTube will stop showing videos on the homepage if your watch history is off https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37066718
YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’ is turned off https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37058189
YouTube will stop showing videos on the homepage if your watch history is off https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37054233
YouTube will now show a blank homepage if you don’t have watch history on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37053817
Ash HN: YouTube home page blank when history is off https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36963702