[_6atf]

> Serious question - Why? Assuming no actual CP was used in the training of the model who is being harmed

I don't think an AI model could generate realistic CP without being trained on examples, which would mean there is literally no way for this assumption to be true.

[Sunhold]

If it's trained on pictures of children and adult porn, the model can easily combine the two concepts. Even if you remove one of these from the training set, it can be finetuned back in to the model with very little effort.

[_6atf]

Based on other topic interpolations I don't think this works, especially not easily.

[GaggiX]

If I can finetune the model on my face and the model will be able to generate my nudes (even if there is no nude of mine in the dataset), then it can works easily with children too.

[_6atf]

Do you understand that adult bodies and child bodies look different?

Please show me a model trained on adult humans being fine tuned to generate a child human (fully clothed).

[dragonwriter]

> Do you understand that adult bodies and child bodies look different?

SD-based models can generate child bodies just fine, based on lots of training with non-porn images.

> Please show me a model trained on adult humans being fine tuned to generate a child human (fully clothed).

That's going to be hard in the SD space since there are, AFAIK, no models trained exclusively on adult humans (not even the base models), so you'd have to scratch-train a new base model to do this. (A model fine-tuned on adult images is still going to have the influence of base-model training, and unless massively overfit—usually very much an anti-goal, the exception being age-filter models whose entire focus is controlling apparent age [0]—will not have lost much of the generalization capability of the base model.)

The generalization abilities of models are good enough in other contexts that its plausible that realistic nude children could be generated by a model with no nude children in its training data that was otherwise trained on both clothed children and nude adults. I have no plans on testing this, however.

[0] e.g., https://civitai.com/models/65214?modelVersionId=74332

[_6atf]

> SD-based models can generate child bodies just fine, based on lots of training with non-porn images.

I have not stated anything contrary.

> The generalization abilities of models are good enough in other contexts that its plausible that realistic nude children could be generated by a model with no nude children in its training data that was otherwise trained on both clothed children and nude adults. I have no plans on testing this, however.

Stable Diffusion has failed me for much simpler interpolations than the one you're describing. I don't believe this would work based on previous interpolations I have seen in Stable Diffusion. You can convince me by showing an example, but not by stating that it is possible without one.

[GaggiX]

>Do you understand that adult bodies and child bodies look different?

And does my face compare to the ones in the dataset.

>Please show me a model trained on adult humans being fine tuned to generate a child human (fully clothed).

That's not something I can easily train for you ahaha

[_6atf]

> And does my face compare to the ones in the dataset.

Yes, exactly! You're fine-tuning something with more data. How do you fine-tune adult porn models to create CP without CP data? If you do what you're saying you'll have adult bodies with child faces.

> That's not something I can easily train for you ahaha

Can you show me any example where such a thing has worked? I don't believe such an example exists.