[squokko]

The upside is that automobile crashes kill >30,000 people in the US alone and self-driving cars may one day bring that number down by 90%

[forgetfreeman]

Might they? Is that a purely faith-based assertion or is that claim grounded in anything? Because current performance suggests otherwise.

[squokko]

Current performance definitely does not suggest otherwise! Over Waymo's first million miles, it was involved in two collisions, one of them at-fault. The average for human drivers is 5.3 collisions per million miles.

[forgetfreeman]

Oh no you don't. Waymo describes it's tech as Level 4 automation. That is an explicit statement that it underperforms human capabilities and has only been greenlit for -very- limited areas and conditions. Industry reports on the subject suggest Level 5 autonomy won't be possible for at least the next 12 years, which is synonymous with saying the industry currently has no idea how to get there.

[squokko]

It doesn't matter if it's only greenlit for limited areas and conditions -- just use them where they work! Don't use them where they don't!