[lmm]

> This seems extremely dismissive and shallow.

When someone tries to make a sophisticated argument that up is down and white is black, dismissive and shallow is the right response.

> The actual work done under the covers is not imperative

Having a declarative layer somewhere in the stack doesn't make something declarative, if that's not the layer you actually use to work on and reason about the system. See the famous "the C language is purely functional" post.

[Pet_Ant]

I’m guessing this is the reference?

http://conal.net/blog/posts/the-c-language-is-purely-functio...

[jjnoakes]

> When someone tries to make a sophisticated argument that up is down and white is black

This is where the deep misunderstanding is coming from.