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by evanem 1042 days ago
The name only refers to the app's features and appearance. Well before I started development, I was looking for a CSV editor for my own use and everything I tried had a 90s look and feel. I figured just because the format is ancient doesn't mean the applications for it should be.
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>The name only refers to the app's features and appearance

Perhaps, but it's very easy to confuse with it being about a modern version of the CSV standard.

In fact that would be probably the default interpretation.

Yeah, that is the first thing I thought.

Modern CSV Editor will probably be a much better name.

Yeah, and perhaps sticking the word together: ModernCSV Editor
CSVEdit? Hopefully not sued by reddit!
I think it’s a great name. Keep it. Even if it confuses some people at first, it’s the sort of confusion which will inspire many people — especially those who deal with text files all day and get pedantic about this stuff — to satisfy their incredulity and thus be exposed to your program.

This is perfect for a tool which most people, including those who would derive the most benefit from it, won’t even hypothesise the existence of.

This type of marketing by deception is absolute anathema to me.

People will "dig deeper" because you tricked then into thinking what you've made of something else, something that person knows they want. Bleurgh.

Yes, that's consistent with modern marketing: make people get your product even if they don't want it and/or don't need it. But, really, are you so desperate. You might save a 1000 hours by making it clear what the subject is; choosing to waste others time [which I'm not at all claiming the OP has done] is contemptible.

Definitely not my intent.
And it's obvious that it wasn't. Don't apologise. Ignore the critics. Any real potential customer will be far too distracted by the excitement of discovering a new thing which might make their life easier; they're not going to be lingering on the moment of cognitive dissonance. Anyone who does was never going to be your customer anyway.
> it’s the sort of confusion which will inspire many people — especially those who deal with text files all day and get pedantic about this stuff — to satisfy their incredulity and thus be exposed to your program.

Confusion doesn't inspire, it irritates. And to pedantic people, the satisfaction comes from being rightfully irritated.

You're basically advocating in defense of misleading/false advertising.

>it’s the sort of confusion which will inspire many people

...to skip it, because while they could use a CSV file editor, they don't care to read about yet another "modern CSV" format.

Confusion can only inspire if potential users pass from hearing about this, to the next level (of checking what it is about).

I, for one, almost didn't click the HN submission because of this reason.

Ignore them, ModernCSV is perfect and memorable. That's how I remembered it and found it.
Of course those who skipped it because of the name wouldn't be posting...

https://medium.com/@penguinpress/an-excerpt-from-how-not-to-...