[Glyptodon]

A lot of discourse about China on HN seems to get pulled into perpetual "but bad things have happened in the US too" whataboutism and a sort of mild muffling. Not to mention the weird stuff that happens with topics like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36946171.

[Brotkrumen]

The discourse exists though, right? Here and elsewhere. Censorship isn't pushback, bad arguments aren't either

[Glyptodon]

I mean the piece isn't really about traditional censorship as such, but social forces working against the expression of particular topics and acting to reduce their visibility.

[Brotkrumen]

I'm reading it as social forces making certain topics unpublishable. In his words

>facts which the Soviet government would prefer to keep hidden, is next door to unprintable.

All topics mentioned so far as "censored" have enjoyed enough publication and even being successful political platforms.

What people here mistake as censorship is usually regurgitated bad arguments being unpopular