[tjpnz]

There was also a well publicised case where a mother was arrested in front of her children after misgendering a trans person on Twitter. The case was eventually thrown out but it seems the UK police have far too much power and flexibility in terms of what they can arrest someone for.

[b112]

The true problem is, what offended 20 years ago, does not offend today. And the same is true for 20 years from now!

So how do you codify this? Legislation can't have specific words and actions in it, it would be out of date before it became law!

So to target "offensive things", depends upon the opinion of the officers, the prosecutor, and so on! And can change at a moments notice!

Oh bewoe to thee, which does not watch twitter and be ware of new words this week!

Here's an example. Where I grew up, colloquially, women were called 'chicks' and men 'boys'. "What are you chicks/boys up to", one might say.

This was used by extreme feminists too, with zero objection.

Flash forward a few years, and in a city 1000km away, I started to describe how I was deeply impressed with the clarity of <female author>, she's a chick to watch.

Zero offense at home. None. New city? All the women, and some men in the room, went ballistic.

Note that:

* I was complementing the intellect of a person

* The tone and mannerism I used, was as if I said "woman to watch"

Point is, a word which was encouraged and approved by feminists I grew up with, used 1000km away in the same province of my country, meant I was an anti-feminist, woman hater.

And how do you legislate that?!

And... what you say in one place, can be dangerous in another, all with no ill intent!

[sdfghswe]

> The true problem is, what offended 20 years ago, does not offend today. And the same is true for 20 years from now!

Just don't make laws apply retroactively. Sounds like a trivial problem with a trivial solution. A woman misgendered etc doesn't matter that it was ok 20 years ago. It's not ok now and she did it now.

[b112]

This still presumes that there is an accepted, official version of any specific language, and that all must adopt it, lest they court disaster.

The absurdity of trying to police language, is absolutely ridiculous. It stops nothing. For example, someone transitions from male to female. They want to be called a woman.

On twitter, I say 'Yes, you are a "woman"'. Note the quotes. What is the implication? Surely sarcasm, or an attempt to delegitimize the reference.

Are we going to send people to jail for quotes?

Are we going to be examining sentences for commas, quotes, and more?

And when is it an offense?

More so, who decides the rules? A committee of people from all walks of life? And who updates them?

After all, it was derogatory to call anyone "gay" 20 years ago, and you could be sued as a newspaper for saying so, and being wrong.

But now there is nothing wrong with being gay, so it is not hateful, and malicious to call someone gay.

Who manages the bad words?

And who informs everyone?

Most people in the US don't read twitter. Don't spend all day on Facebook. Many have no idea that "pronouns" are a thing.

If you look at twitter and Facebook, you'd think this stuff is all people talk about. If you talk to the average citizen, they rarely think about it, talk about it, or care.

So who updates them with this info, and, what words are ok this week?

[sdfghswe]

Speaking of language

> what words are ok this week?

This kind of language takes any presumption of good faith on your part. You cannot possibly believe that these kind of changes happen on a weekly basis, and yet you imply it in making your argument.

[b112]

An impressive, well thought out response.

"Thank you"

[sdfghswe]

No one will ever give you a well throughout out response after "which words are ok this week". Good luck.

[TheSpiceIsLife]

Still, it shouldn’t be an offence.

You might think your a woman, I might disagree.

Can we just agree to disagree? Does anyone need to be charged with a criminal offence over that?

If you feel motivated to take female hormones and chop ya dick off, you’ve got problems, but being called a man really isn’t one of the ones worth worry about.

[sdfghswe]

I think that people for whom what _other_ people are or aren't is a big important issue are the ones with a problem.