[ta20230813]

> I got kicked out for being gay with no notice and had no savings.

Same, in December 2002. Feels a little strange how it works now, compared to be drug out of the barracks by MPs like a criminal. The Army never apologizes.

[warner25]

I'm curious about this. 2002 was before my time, and DADT was mostly before my time, but I've overseen a couple dozen administrative separations for other things (ranging from actual criminal conduct to repeated fitness test failures) as a platoon leader and commander, and I've never seen anything like this.

The bureaucracy will drag out any separation action for months; like at a minimum it will include a series of formal counseling statements by your first-line supervisor and commander, visits to Trial Defense Services, and mental and physical health assessments that take weeks to schedule.

Even in cases of actual criminal conduct, the MPs are very rarely involved. A first-line supervisor NCO would handle the task of escorting the person to their appointments and pulling guard duty if there were some restrictions in place (also rare).

Is there more to these stories?

[blcknight]

Yea it’s still not fully accepting but nobody’s kicked out anymore. I know I’ll never get an apology. The US doesn’t apologize.

I do see the occasional person bringing their SO to the Navy and Marine balls.