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by oneplane 1046 days ago
> You're merely a tenant without any power.

By that logic, that's what you are on your phone as well, unless you collected the silicon material, diffused and soldered and programmed it yourself.

Even if you assume 'a physical black box, but at least you hold it in your own hands', that is barely making that position stronger since you're still reliant upon networking which requires both a second party and rights to use it, neither of which you control.

Essentially, you will never, ever be some silly idea of a 'self made server owning person' because without mutual agreements and trusts, you get nothing. Not even spare electrons to flip the bits in the CPU registers.

The best we can do is make a balance between our risk appetite and how we want to spend our time. Turns out random phones that will turn into e-waste faster than you can sneeze is what people accept, and thus that is what the suppliers supply.

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> By that logic, that's what you are on your phone as well

I'm lost, how did you come the conclusion that tenants and owners lend the same power?

> unless you collected the silicon material, diffused and soldered and programmed it yourself.

You don't need to build a house to be its owner.

You're focusing on the tenant part too much, it's about power. Their knowledge and means are generally not focused to be in power, no matter their tenancy.

Equating being able to run a webserver on a privileged port to power, and thus ownership is a bad take. That also goes for the other way around where it is equated to ownership first and power second: none of that is coupled to the ability to run a webserver on any port for that matter.

And on top of that, I made the case that even if you could, you're now just beholden to the power of the webserver maintainer, the OS maintainer and the baseband maintainer. You're not suddenly 'free' or 'empowered' by some sort of ideal.

Mind you, I'm not saying it's great that you can't always run arbitrary software, but staking power and tenancy on that seems pretty dumb to me.